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| Reading his piece on the sportinglife website I think its disgusting the way he was treated by Cas and Ian Millward.
If Warrington treated a player like that I would be ashamed.
We all know that Mathers makes the odd howler but generally he is a solid proffessional who lives his life in the right way. To make him an outcast just because the new coach doesnt fancy him or wants to spend his cap elsewhere is a disgrace and should not be allowed.
I hope Richie sticks one up them when Wakey Play Cas.
To boot Millward is looking to take Martin Gleeson on when his ban ends, again I hope that comes back to bite him on the bum as Im sure it will.
Castlefords reputation has plummeted this off season.
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| Not really, Mathers is a distinctly average fullback, who found himself in 2 decent teams, and thus making him seem better than he actually is.
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| Quote Live Wired="Live Wired"Not really, Mathers is a distinctly average fullback, who found himself in 2 decent teams, and thus making him seem better than he actually is.'"
So because somebody is classed as average they should be treated as an outcast?
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| What do you expect it is Millward
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| His performance at Wembley in '10 alone proved that on his day he is a quality full back. Should have picked up the Lance Todd imo. Hope he settles at Wakey.
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| Mathers' problem is that he rides the emotion roller coaster. If it's going well he is brilliant, and an asset to even the best teams. But if it's not going well, he's off form and the world is against him. I don't read too much into this, he should just be digging in to make a difference at his new club, not stewing over a previous club/coach
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| Quote Colin_Fishwick="Colin_Fishwick"Reading his piece on the sportinglife website I think its disgusting the way he was treated by Cas and Ian Millward.
If Warrington treated a player like that I would be ashamed.
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Be ashamed then because Warrington did that to Iestyn Harris.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Be ashamed then because Warrington did that to Iestyn Harris.'"
It's a long time ago Sal, but from what I remember Harris refused to play fullback and was transfer listed. When he eventually went to Leeds, he started playing..........fullback! Mathers just didn't fit in with Millward's plans so he binned him.
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| I wonder if Mathers is a bit of a pest at training. A know it all, or someone who doesn't shut up, as such, distrupts the team ethos a coach would try and build. Millward would have his reasons for moving him on and effectivly banning him from training.
He's turning into a little bit of a journeyman, 6 clubs up to now
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| Mathers suffered as Smith wanted him to be like Hodgson (who he ended up signing anyway) and he wasn't quite up to the job in terms of core skills and vision but was a still a good player in his own right.
He had some great games for us at crucial times as well.
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| Coach in rating a player as not good enough, shocker.
Let's move on
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| For me the role of full back has changed greatly over the last few years. More and more teams are looking for an extra pivot rather than a traditional full back.
Mathers is very much an old school full back and not suited to the pivot role, I know he originally started as a potential stan off but he never grew into the role.
It's a shame really as he seems like a decent bloke and keeps himself in shape.
At the time he signed for us I still think it was a great deal as it gave us some stability in a troublesome position. Over his time he made the odd error but my main memory of him will always be the game he had against Leeds at Wembley.
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