Is it getting worse? We've had Martin and Seymour down as 'widely regarded as one of the best players not to play for Aus' and now we've got O'Carroll being "one of the most highly regarded youngsters to hail from the west of the Pennines." I personally think it's got worse since Kath/Rule left. I know it doesn't really matter but it is quite annoying

You've just said it yourself....it doesn't matter.

EVERY club without exception will 'big up' their signings. They're hardly going to say, "We think they're quite good but time will tell, eh?".....or "probably a bit better than average, but better than we had last year!"

Don't let it bother you.

I don't know why everyone gets so wound up about it.

it's no different to any other form of media/marleting/advertising, I wonder if the people who moan about it also write to Tampax to say they can't Sky Dive like the chick on the advert, even with a tampon applied!

Well, that's Clarky for you.

in fairness, someone (Wilf,

) did warn us all!

and every other employee in any organisation with any sort of responsibility towards marketing, advertising, customer liaison.......

Indeed. In fact most of the 'spin' that Rule got blamed for will have come from Clarky anyway as he was media manager.

People just need to accept that this is marketing, pure and simple. It's not going to change any time soon.

It would be great if they all actually started being honest.

Tony Martin - He's cheap, he's off quota and he's less crap than the others who were prepared to come for the money.

What do people expect clubs to say on their websites, seriously.

That would really sell passes to fans

The truth. I can take a bit of spin but calling O'Carroll one of the most exciting youngsters is a complete lie.