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On what grounds do you feel so strongly that it warrants this action? Looking at some of the posts, it looks more like a place for empty vessels to congregate so they can moan about squad numbers, twitter hashtags, play-offs, the weather, getting a bit wet at matches etc. I don't mind supporting initiatives but not ones that are just outlets for the moaning classes.

My internet connection dropped out yesterday. Can I blame the RFL for that?

Yes it never happened when we had P&R !!!icon_smile.gif

I agree that the RFL are completely incompetent and in danger of ruining the sport. But I think it should be the clubs themselves that force change, rather than the supporters.

There is a groundswell of disenchantment amongst the club owners and a few have publicly had a snipe this year, including our own about the number of clubs in Super League and it's financial footings.

The thing is, decisions for which the RFL have taken a load of flak, such as the ridiculous Stobart deal and the decision to move to 14 teams, were taken by the Super League chairmen. Individual chairmen may have spoken out against, but collectively we've got what the clubs voted for.

I fail to see how the current financial crisis engulfing SL, can be laid at the door of the RFL. The RFL is awash with cash compared to when Lewis took over and it was in debt. The clubs price the tickets, they buy the players and pay the staff, what do we expect the RFL to do, micro manage every single club. I'm sure the fans would love that. Sorry Saints send back Manu, you made a loss this year so you have to sell Roby, Lomax, Perry, TP, Sia and several others to balance the books.

You'd soon see uproar against the RFL if they tried to interfere in the private finances of clubs, yet as soon as the mis management is laid bare, it's the RFL's fault.

It's a sad indicment of our society that there is such a lack of personal responsibility it's always someone else's fault or they were the cause by not watching me closely enough whilst I did something rather silly.

I know Saints are in a perilous financial state too, but if we spent like we do now with no financial backers, I would not expect to blame the RFL when the whole house of cards came crashing down. It's simple Money in = Money out. Get that right and you won't go bust.

The RFL aren't in charge of the individual club's finances. But they are in charge of the game as a whole. It's not progressing and it's being swamped by Union in this country. We do not register in the eyes of the media in this country at all. There is no hype generated for any of our competitions and the TV deal is absolutely woeful given the ratings the sport generates for Sky.

Agree, don,t know how the clubs can compete in the market place when the RFL can,t flagship our sport.
Our sport is imploding and standards in every entity diminishing, marketing, media, players, officials, sponsors are reducing our stature in the World of Sport.

So seriously we should pack up the RFL and give it up as a bad idea.

Or do the thousands who enjoy the sport count for nothing in the eyes of those who still see this as a race between sports.

Pack it up? No, change the personnel and improve the processes and modernise it? Yes.

The issue is accountability. The RFL and the people running it are not accountable to anyone.

They take the TV money and Sports England funding distribute what they want to the clubs, hire a small army of employees at Red Hall and keep the rest for themself. They then announce a profit and pat each other on the back. So the clubs suffer for the RFLs mismanagement.