reading a topic on the wigan forum, people seemed to want a franchise system and P+R judging by the variety of comments on the topic.

I took it upon myself to produce his masterpiece lol i took a few ideas, added my own and came up with ------------

what if it was 16 team league split into a top and bottom 8 teams where everyone plays each each other twice with MM matches contained within the tiers therefore playing a competing 3 times . top 8 go into plays for the GF and the lower 8 go into a play off to get into the top 8?

not sure how the team to be demoted to the lower 8 would work if there was a play off system, what if the 8th placed club had a really good run in the play offs?

GF at OT and the lower final at bolton, blackburn or leeds.

obviously this could reduce GF sales but the league could do a deal, buy one get one half price kind of thing

not sure if it would work but it could be an idea.

you heard it here first

How about :-
Bottom of Superleague play championship GF winners at champioship side ground IF Championship side has met criteria for superleague

Ok this could mean that say Widnes might have to play in a promotion/relegation battle after 1 season but they would have to prove they have the playing rights for SL over the top championship side.

Now some people might say that this does not give the new SL sides time to plan for the future and to develop like the 3 year deal does. Well maybe they only need to develop enough in year 1 to beat the championship side in the playoff, develop enough in year two not to finish bottom of SL and by the time year 3 is here, if they aint good enough by then....bye bye

I know this is a crazy idea, but:

How about the team that finishes bottom of Super League goes down to the Championship, and the team that wins the Championship playoffs is promoted to Super League?

It's like religion - a fantastic idea but flawed when you pull at the seams even a little bit.

If both divisions were full time, and operating on remotely comparable TV incomes, it would be feasible. However, at present, a crap SuperLeague club pays in the region of 3 times in players salary as a decent Championship club. Most Championship clubs are part time, all SuperLeague clubs are full time. You cannot have businesses of such differing sizes swapping places on a yearly basis. People say franchising is harsh - this would be survival of the fittest at it's most brutal.

Until RL has two divisions in which clubs operate on broadly similar terms, it's a non starter.

What is the difference between the 2 leagues salary cap wise?

Would be a better idea not to give franchises to teams that do not meet the criteria Crusaders and Quimms and Catalans shouldn't be in SL IMO Would rather have Halifax,Wakefield And Leigh

I see your point, but also understand why the league keeps these teams in, to expand the game.

Although, I think it's unfair on Barrow/Cumbrian teams & if a club has been in Administration, surely that can't be a good thing, and it would be unfair on the likes of Halifax, if they are turned down for the likes of Wakefield or Crusaders.

£1.3 million I think.

plus all the off field costs as well,it used to be part of the conditions of being in SL that you needed to appoint a Chief exec to oversee the operation of the club on a day to day basis, i think in part that shows a serious attempt at trying to run a RL club as a full time business, i believe widnes resisted this for the first three years they were in SL, look what happened to them, being run like the local fooking rotary club with small time local businessmen at the helm.

I think its just impossible to expect a part time team/club to make the transition to that sort of expectation in less than 12 months.

Widnes and halifax seem to have been getting their houses in order over the last 3 years and Catalan made a statement of intent with their merger and reorganization pre admission to SL

PS now that, was boring

Crusaders should have proved themseleves first their attendances are disgacefull same as QUIMMS !
crusaders should have met the full criteria before they were admited to SL !
The RFL will never admit they were wrong and expansion only works if their is a supporter base which their isn't in those areas !
As far as Catalans are concerned from my point of view they should set up their own French SL and maybe have a European cup like yawnion if SL and sky are not going to increase the revenue pot then clubs need crowds and Catalan Quimms and Crusaders are the three worst supported teams in SL !
and offer no sign of improvement from a supporter base how long can Quimms survive on their poor support ! or will they just expect another bailout !!!

Quote oli30045="oli30045"What is the difference between the 2 leagues salary cap wise?'" rfllive.dyndns.org/~rflmedia/doc ... 0Guide.pdf SL is £1.65m, C is £300k and C1 is £150k: Quote oli300453.1.1 A Club must ensure that, at any time during the Salary Cap Year, its Aggregate First Tier Liability does not exceed: (a) for British based clubs, £1,650,000 (One Million Six Hundred and Fifty Thousand Pounds) (or such amount as determined prior to the Salary Cap Year in question by a majority vote of the British clubs), or (b) for clubs based in a country with the Euro as its currency, €2,200,000 (Two Million Two Hundred Thousand Euros) (or such amount as determined prior to the Salary Cap Year in question by the Board of Super League Europe Limited whose decision and brief reasons will be circulated to all Super League clubs).'" Quote oli30045The Salary Cap, finite upper limit, for 2011 is £300,000 for the Championship division and £150,000 for Championship One (excluding payments to players detailed under Section 7 – Non-Salary Cap Costs).'"

Quote oli30045="oli30045"What is the difference between the 2 leagues salary cap wise?'" rfllive.dyndns.org/~rflmedia/doc ... 0Guide.pdf SL is £1.65m, C is £300k and C1 is £150k: Quote oli300453.1.1 A Club must ensure that, at any time during the Salary Cap Year, its Aggregate First Tier Liability does not exceed: (a) for British based clubs, £1,650,000 (One Million Six Hundred and Fifty Thousand Pounds) (or such amount as determined prior to the Salary Cap Year in question by a majority vote of the British clubs), or (b) for clubs based in a country with the Euro as its currency, €2,200,000 (Two Million Two Hundred Thousand Euros) (or such amount as determined prior to the Salary Cap Year in question by the Board of Super League Europe Limited whose decision and brief reasons will be circulated to all Super League clubs).'" Quote oli30045The Salary Cap, finite upper limit, for 2011 is £300,000 for the Championship division and £150,000 for Championship One (excluding payments to players detailed under Section 7 – Non-Salary Cap Costs).'"

I think Crusaders probably got there license too soon.

I keep hearing that there is more amateur players in London, then any other part of the UK, why haven't "Quins" tapped into these people who obviously have and interest in our game?!!!

I don't have a problem with Catalans, I always thought there attendences weren't that bad?!!
Would be interested to know how many French players there bringing through tho.

Would be great if we could have a Euro competition within the game, especially with the support going into the Italian game now. Think it's all a pipe dream tho - can't see it ever happening !!!!!