Would have him back tomorrow. Fullback.

He's got exactly what he needed - game time. He's a better Full Back than a Half Back, needs that extra time on the ball I think.

I wouldn't swap him for Ratchford or Patton at this stage, but if he keeps his improvement up, he's looking good.

It's nice to see Warrington boys in other SL teams doing well though, plus all the warringtonians in the current squad is promising.

He needs to have a good season as he has been overlooked for a long time I hope it has made him stronger and he can kick on and be a top player weather it is for us or not, I hope he makes a good.

In cases like this one you need a coach who can foresee these changes in a players career, clearly TS doesn't have this skill just yet, if he did who knows where we would be, but we will still persevere with Russell at FB and Evans on the wing until he learns that skill!

Id agree if he has a consistent season, with last nights performance. If not, fully right decision to move him on. Lets not forget, he had a number great games for us. But, for me, his average games far outweighed his great games.

Fair play to him last night though. Always good to see a Warrington lad playing well. Some of my muckas have walloped me in the fantasy league this week with his inclusion.

Last night on the Radio after the game, Salfords Coach said that Gareth didn't have a great game last week. He went onto to talk about consistency (part of this was about his whole team and not just Gareth)

But Russell is our reserve full back, and Evans isn't a first choice winger. You are proving the point in a way, O'Brien isn't good enough to take a shirt of Gidley or Brown, and he isn't good enough to take a shirt off Ratchford at full back. Therefore he would be back to being in and out of the squad. What he needs is conisitent game time to develop, he wasn't good enough to warrant that with us, Salford has done him the world of good on that score it would seem.

TS will give chances to young players that are good enough. Currie and Toby King being examples. O'Brien is also older now than the likes of Currie, King(s), Savelio, Clark, Lineham and the seemingly much maligned Evans and Russell, both of whom I believe have shown more promise in a Wire shirt than O'Brien ever did.

I'll repeat my point from earlier though, I'm delighted that with regular game time he is now developing in to a good SL player

I think he's good enough to take the shirt of ratch, and I'm a supporter of ratch as a fullback.


From what I saw last year and last night, gob seems to be the closest replacement for hodgo that we were trying to manufacture.

I know exactly what you mean . Still wouldn't have had the chance to develop to said level if he was at this club , too much pressure .

I think he would need a season being consistent before we even considered him

I disagree that smith gives youngsters a chance or not a fair crack of the whip at least. And often their inclusion is due to cover injuries. He didn't have the courage faith to give Patton the hb spot King would be at centre too. Yes we need cover but often faith is repaid with performances on the pitch Williams at Wigan as an example. We are to afraid of taking that risk but more than happy to spend on risks a la sandow

Toby King isn't good enough

Bit early to be writing off King, has the potential to be an excellent player. He'll be first choice centre for most of this year I expect.